Will Rogers Downs Entries & Results for Friday, October 4, 2019

Will Rogers Downs, Claremore, OK
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Will Rogers Downs is a casino and racetrack located near Tulsa, Oklahoma. It is owned and operated by the Cherokee Nation, and hosts both Thoroughbred and Quarter Horse races.
Racing: March 25 - May 25, 2019.
Biggest stakes: The Will Rogers Stakes

350Y, Dirt, $10,000 Maiden Claiming
Open | 2 Year Olds
Purse: $5,500

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) First Half of Daily Double

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Invisable Paint Brush

Crm Livewire

Roy Garza

Bryan Ernst

4/1

2 2

Allies Favorite Sign

Second Painted Sign

Michael Moss

Nakia Ramirez

12/1

3 3

Cl Fake News

Coronado Cartel

Eddie D. Willis

Justine Klaiber

2/1

4 4

Final Drive

Jess Lips

Ray A. Enlow

Gonzalo Gutierrez

5/2

5 5

Pistol Grippin Gal

Crm Livewire

Luz Chavira

Mario Delgado

7/2

6 6

Kd Suns Out Guns Out

Cocked an Loaded

Matthew Cody McCart

Travis Cunningham

6/1

Runner Win Place Show
Cl Fake News  3 $4.40 $3.20 $2.40
Invisable Paint Brush  1 - $9.80 $7.20
Allies Favorite Sign  2 - - $11.00
Final Drive  4 - - -
Also rans: Pistol Grippin Gal, Kd Suns Out Guns Out
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Quinella 3-ALL $2.20 $0.00
Superfecta 3-1-2-4 $490.80 $744.00
Exacta 3-1 $32.80 $864.00
Trifecta 3-1-2 $242.60 $560.00
Quinella 1-ALL $6.00 $26.00
Fractions and final time: :17.945, :17.945
Winning Owner: Charles R. Leggett
Winning Breeder: Leggett, Wade R

250Y, Dirt, $10,000 Maiden Claiming
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $5,500

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Second Half of Daily Double

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Sm Maddies Little Bit

Sm Country Snowman

Ramon Mendoza

Cody Wainscott

2/1

2 2

Bold Moon Carver

General Wave

Michael Moss

Nakia Ramirez

4/1

3 3

Lil Barbie Girl

The Dashing Hero

Valarie Torres

Gonzalo Gutierrez

5/1

4 4

Jnl Heavenly Treasure

Hidden Miracle

Marti L. Rodriguez

Malouly Rodriguez

10/1

5 5

Sps Scorpion Jet

Second Painted Sign

Michael Moss

Travis Cunningham

12/1

6 6

Heza Midnight Shadow

Midnight Cartel

Michelle Hurdle

Justine Klaiber

8/5

Runner Win Place Show
Heza Midnight Shadow  6 $3.60 $3.00 $2.40
Bold Moon Carver  2 - $3.20 $3.20
Lil Barbie Girl  3 - - $2.60
Sps Scorpion Jet  5 - - -
Also rans: Sm Maddies Little Bit, Jnl Heavenly Treasure
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Exacta 6-2 $17.60 $2,510.00
Quinella 2-6 $10.40 $221.00
Superfecta 6-2-3-5 $220.60 $2,087.00
Trifecta 6-2-3 $35.00 $2,402.00
Daily Double 3-6 $12.20 $163.00
Fractions and final time: :13.81
Winning Owner: Mary Lucas
Winning Breeder: Lucas, Mary

Tuesday's Best Bet: Quality Rocket ready to take off at Will Rogers

Jarrod Horak's best bet for May 19 is the Cherokee Nation Classic Cup Stakes from Will Rogers Downs.

870Y, Dirt, $15,000 Optional Claiming
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $12,200

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Shake a Little Salt

Streakin Six Cartel

Gary K. Walker

Justine Klaiber

8/1

2 2

Higher Flyin Eagle

Favorite Cartel

Clinton Crawford

Curtis Kimes

5/1

3 3

Blazen Panther

Panther Mountain

Luz Chavira

Travis Cunningham

2/1

4 4

Aloatawatah

Lota Pyc

Samuel E. Valdivia

Gonzalo Gutierrez

8/1

5 5

The Field Cricket

Lead the Field

R.L. Rick Robinson

Andrew R. Samaniego

5/2

6 6

Admiral Zoomwalt

Shazoom

R.L. Rick Robinson

Agustin Silva

3/1

Runner Win Place Show
Higher Flyin Eagle  2 $4.60 $6.40 $3.80
Shake a Little Salt  1 - $22.80 $3.80
The Field Cricket  5 - - $2.20
Blazen Panther  3 - - -
Also rans: Admiral Zoomwalt
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Quinella 1-2 $15.00 $115.00
Trifecta 2-1-5 $77.80 $1,027.00
Exacta 2-1 $24.60 $1,480.00
Fractions and final time: :45.648
Winning Owner: Joel Rod Pierce
Winning Breeder: King Camden Running Horses Inc

250Y, Dirt, $5,000 Maiden Claiming
Open | 2 Year Olds
Purse: $7,200

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

J Lohrr

Bv Travelin Soldier

Eddie D. Willis

Justine Klaiber

8/1

2 2

Owens Gone Streakin

Streak and Dash

Clinton Crawford

Mario Delgado

7/2

3 3

Speed Eye Need

All Corona

Eddie Lee Willis

Agustin Silva

9/2

4 4

Hez Teedoff

Hes Relentless

R.L. Rick Robinson

Andrew R. Samaniego

5/2

5 5

C Country Girl

Country Chicks Man

Mark Linch

Gonzalo Gutierrez

20/1

6 6

Jesscheckinmywings

Jess B Quick

Cristino Estrada-Regalado

Javier Hernandez-Gallardo

12/1

7 7

Lips of Sabrina

Jess Lips

Eddie Lee Willis

Jimmy Dean Brooks

8/1

8 8

Need U Now

Stel Corona

Samuel E. Valdivia

Jose Vega

12/1

9 9

Riii Special Virtue

Howdoyalikemesofar

Juan Jose Gomez

Malouly Rodriguez

20/1

10 10

Rr La Felina

Capo de Capi

Carlos Ruiz

Gonzalo R. Valles Jr.

8/1

Runner Win Place Show
Hez Teedoff  4 $4.00 $3.60 $2.20
Speed Eye Need  3 - $3.60 $2.80
Owens Gone Streakin  2 - - $3.60
Lips of Sabrina  7 - - -
Also rans: Jesscheckinmywings, Rr La Felina, J Lohrr, C Country Girl, Need U Now, Riii Special Virtue
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Exacta 4-3 $14.60 $2,953.00
Superfecta 4-3-2-7 $127.00 $1,551.00
Trifecta 4-3-2 $43.40 $2,394.00
Quinella 3-4 $9.60 $356.00
Fractions and final time: :13.5
Winning Owner: Francisco J. Garza
Winning Breeder: Francisco Javier Garza

What we learned: Tiz the Law now a superstar after Travers

Tiz the Law took the next step in his Travers win.

870Y, Dirt, $10,000 Maiden Claiming
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $8,700

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Shinin Dash

Bodacious Dash

Ty Remington

Travis Cunningham

2/1

2 2

The Big Johnson

Cf Chickasaw Warrior

Brian Wayne Wilson

Randy R. Wilson

12/1

3 3

Inseperable Hd

Inseperable

Orrin Cogburn

Curtis Kimes

7/2

4 4

Hez the First Stone

First Dinastia

Kent L. Crowton

Bryan Ernst

4/1

5 5

Orphan Jones

Jess Jones

Shane Seaton

Nakia Ramirez

9/5

6 6

Bubba Be Quick

Gary D

Gary K. Walker

Javier Hernandez-Gallardo

15/1

Runner Win Place Show
Orphan Jones  5 $3.80 $3.40 $2.60
Hez the First Stone  4 - $8.80 $4.80
Bubba Be Quick  6 - - $6.20
Shinin Dash  1 - - -
Also rans: The Big Johnson, Inseperable Hd
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Quinella 4-5 $9.40 $176.00
Superfecta 5-4-6-1 $398.80 $1,824.00
Trifecta 5-4-6 $161.20 $2,879.00
Exacta 5-4 $24.40 $3,678.00
Fractions and final time: :47.487
Winning Owner: Racie Seaton
Winning Breeder: J D Anderson

250Y, Dirt, $10,000 Claiming
Open | 2 Year Olds
Purse: $9,200

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Pick 4 (Races 6-7-8-9) (.50 min.)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Smoke Em All Sis

All Corona

Eddie Lee Willis

Agustin Silva

6/1

2 2

Feature Lil Tiny Too

Feature Mr Bojangles

Connie Barnes

Randy R. Wilson

8/1

3 3

Bp Southern Eagles

One Dashing Eagle

Miguel C. Banuelos

Andrew R. Samaniego

15/1

4 4

Seperate Rain

Inseperable

Eddie D. Willis

Justine Klaiber

5/1

5 5

Cleopatra

Tizours Runnin Away

Everardo N. Escamilla-Gonzalez

Gonzalo Gutierrez

8/1

6 6

Envogue

Ivory James

R.L. Rick Robinson

Mario Delgado

9/5

7 7

Foose Mint

Foose

Charles Duke Shults

Cody Wainscott

12/1

8 8

Jm Lady Luck

Dominyun

Matthew Cody McCart

Jose Vega

4/1

Runner Win Place Show
Seperate Rain  4 $12.00 $5.60 $4.80
Feature Lil Tiny Too  2 - $11.60 $8.60
Cleopatra  5 - - $8.00
Jm Lady Luck  8 - - -
Also rans: Smoke Em All Sis, Envogue, Foose Mint, Bp Southern Eagles
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Quinella 2-4 $39.00 $99.00
Superfecta 4-2-5-8 $7,476.80 $984.00
Trifecta 4-2-ALL $522.20 $1,549.00
Exacta 4-2 $251.00 $2,140.00
Fractions and final time: :13.426
Winning Owner: Arthur W. Devereaux
Winning Breeder: Arthur W Devereaux

Analysis: Shared Sense can upset Art Collector at Ellis Park

Reinier Macatangay makes a case for Shared Sense in the Ellis Park Derby.

400Y, Dirt, Maiden
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $13,700

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Pick 3 (Races 7-8-9)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Just Call Me Poppy

Pappasito

Anthony Nichols

Bryan Ernst

5/1

2 2

Flying Afar

Stel Corona

Gerardo Arroyo

Gonzalo Gutierrez

2/1

3 3

Joe Bangles

Feature Mr Bojangles

Cristino Estrada-Regalado

Javier Hernandez-Gallardo

8/1

4 4

Perrys First Lady

Mr Jess Perry

Charles Duke Shults

Cody Wainscott

7/2

5 5

Snapincat

Furrtreeous

Ramon Mendoza

Mario Delgado

12/1

6 6

Toby Talent

Talents Roar

Pedro Hernandez-Pulido

Armando Ramirez II

5/2

7 7

Its Mr Pyc to You

Pyc Paint Your Wagon

John Brasseaux

Andrew R. Samaniego

12/1

Runner Win Place Show
Perrys First Lady  4 $7.20 $3.80 $2.20
Toby Talent  6 - $4.80 $2.80
Flying Afar  2 - - $2.10
Snapincat  5 - - -
Also rans: Joe Bangles, Just Call Me Poppy, Its Mr Pyc to You
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Exacta 4-6 $56.60 $2,491.00
Quinella 4-6 $17.00 $184.00
Superfecta 4-6-2-5 $394.60 $1,248.00
Trifecta 4-6-2 $122.80 $1,901.00
Fractions and final time: :20.214
Winning Owner: Whitmire Ranch
Winning Breeder: McColee Land & Livestock Llc

250Y, Dirt, $15,000 Maiden Claiming
Open | 2 Year Olds
Purse: $11,300

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Pick 3 (Races 8-9-10)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Dun Pickedyourpocket

Bv Travelin Soldier

Miguel C. Banuelos

Mario Delgado

10/1

2 2

Pyc Painted Lady

Second Painted Sign

Randall R. Read

Andrew R. Samaniego

7/2

3 3

Catchin Train B

Freighttrain B

Eddie D. Willis

Jimmy Dean Brooks

5/2

4 4

Cee de Knockout

Capo de Capi

Lucio Espiritu

Gonzalo Gutierrez

15/1

5 5

Mister Cabo

Brace for Bernal

Carlos Ruiz

Gonzalo R. Valles Jr.

12/1

6 6

Ring a Ring of Roses

Jess Lips

Dee Keener

Randy R. Wilson

8/1

7 7

Rfancy Fire

Walk Thru Fire

Matt Whitekiller

Jose Vega

5/1

8 8

One Sweet Candy

One Sweet Jess

Guillermo Valdivia

Rolando Raudales

6/1

9 9

Called to Freedom

Freighttrain B

Durk Peery

Travis Cunningham

12/1

10 10

Amish Rain

Moonland Jess

Richard D. Scroggins, Jr.

Bryan Ernst

20/1

Runner Win Place Show
Catchin Train B  3 $5.80 $3.60 $2.80
Pyc Painted Lady  2 - $6.00 $5.40
Rfancy Fire  7 - - $7.60
One Sweet Candy  8 - - -
Also rans: Ring a Ring of Roses, Mister Cabo, Cee de Knockout, Dun Pickedyourpocket, Amish Rain, Called to Freedom
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Superfecta 3-2-7-8 $1,001.40 $2,111.00
Trifecta 3-2-7 $132.80 $2,392.00
Exacta 3-2 $34.60 $3,646.00
Quinella 2-3 $13.00 $167.00
Fractions and final time: :13.42
Winning Owner: James Sills
Winning Breeder: James Sills

Who's in, out and on the 2020 Kentucky Derby points bubble?

Bryan Brinkmeyer runs down the Derby leaderboard exiting the Travers.

250Y, Dirt, $10,000 Claiming
Open | 2 Year Olds
Purse: $9,200

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Pick 4 (Races 9-10-11-12) (.50 min.)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Miss Trainwreck

Lota Pyc

Eddie Lee Willis

Agustin Silva

5/2

2 2

Persnickety Fashion

Separatist

Gerald D. Ellis

Justine Klaiber

8/1

3 3

Flying Mrjohnnyb

Capo de Capi

Clinton Crawford

Mario Delgado

12/1

4 4

Tessio

Capo de Capi

Eddie D. Willis

Jimmy Dean Brooks

5/1

5 5

Cartels Blessing

The Louisiana Cartel

R.L. Rick Robinson

Andrew R. Samaniego

3/1

6 6

Real Eagle Cartel

Mandalay Moon

Felipe Morales Martinez

Rolando Raudales

12/1

7 7

Jess a Lil Pyc

Little Pyc

Pedro Martinez

Gonzalo Gutierrez

10/1

8 8

Pyc Granite Chic

Kool Wagon

Samuel E. Valdivia

Jose Vega

4/1

Runner Win Place Show
Cartels Blessing  5 $3.40 $3.00 $2.20
Persnickety Fashion  2 - $7.00 $4.40
Jess a Lil Pyc  7 - - $3.20
Real Eagle Cartel  6 - - -
Also rans: Tessio, Flying Mrjohnnyb, Pyc Granite Chic
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Pick 4 4-4-3-1/5 $307.00 $410.00
Superfecta 5-2-7-6 $1,222.00 $3,654.00
Quinella 2-5 $19.80 $145.00
Exacta 5-2 $23.20 $3,221.00
Trifecta 5-2-7 $144.40 $3,051.00
Pick 3 4-3-1/5 $36.80 $135.00
Fractions and final time: :13.252
Winning Owner: Charles Blanek
Winning Breeder: Charles Blanek

330Y, Dirt, Allowance
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $14,200

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Pick 3 (Races 10-11-12)

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Firstly

Kiddy Up

Diego Arroyo

Gonzalo Gutierrez

15/1

2 2

Dang It Autry

Red Oak Special

Mario J. Loza

Armando Ramirez II

12/1

3 3

Anotherdashingacorn

Inseperable

Juvenal Licona-Vazquez

Mario Delgado

8/1

4 4

Miss Racy Cartel

Corona Cartel

Guillermo Valdivia

Rolando Raudales

6/1

5 5

Ms Perry Cartel

Corona Cartel

Luis Villafranco

Agustin Silva

7/2

6 6

Valliance

Valiant Hero

Eddie D. Willis

Jimmy Dean Brooks

10/1

7 7

Cumberland

Apollitical Jess

Charles Duke Shults

Cody Wainscott

12/1

8 8

Jestagoodoldboy

First Down Dash

Kenny Laymon

Jose Vega

3/1

9 9

Emil Zatopek

Bodacious Dash

Valarie Torres

Travis Cunningham

5/1

10 10

A Phenomenal Pyc

Pyc Paint Your Wagon

Cristino Estrada-Regalado

Bryan Ernst

12/1

Runner Win Place Show
Ms Perry Cartel  5 $6.00 $4.20 $3.60
Valliance  6 - $11.20 $8.20
Dang It Autry  2 - - $13.00
Cumberland  7 - - -
Also rans: Jestagoodoldboy, Anotherdashingacorn, A Phenomenal Pyc, Emil Zatopek, Miss Racy Cartel, Firstly
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Quinella 5-6 $29.60 $341.00
Exacta 5-6 $40.40 $2,483.00
Pick 3 3-1/5-5 $25.00 $59.00
Trifecta 5-6-2 $642.40 $1,908.00
Superfecta 5-6-2-7 $8,136.80 $1,607.00
Fractions and final time: :16.917
Winning Owner: Fernando Ayala
Winning Breeder: Flag Ranch Llc

Dean Martini raises the bar for his one-horse stable owners

Dean Martini could raise the bar for his one-horse stable owners in the Ellis Park Derby.

250Y, Dirt, $10,000 Claiming
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $10,200

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) First Half of Late Daily Double

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Jess Knockedout

Spit Curl Jess

Juvenal Licona-Vazquez

Gonzalo Gutierrez

4/1

2 2

Return of Fishy

High Rate of Return

Fidencio L. Jimenez

Agustin Silva

2/1

3 3

Can

First Smart Money

Pedro Martinez

Jose Vega

8/1

4 4

Miss Mighty Pizazz

Mighty B Valiant

Hipolito Michel-Valverde

Mario Delgado

7/2

5 5

Bv Macho Man

Tac It Like a Man

Cristino Estrada-Regalado

Javier Hernandez-Gallardo

8/1

6 6

Good and Tough

Too Tough to Catch

Bonnie L. Wilson

Randy R. Wilson

5/1

7 7

Mr Rushmore

Rushago

Guillermo Valdivia

Rolando Raudales

8/1

Runner Win Place Show
Miss Mighty Pizazz  4 $10.20 $5.40 $3.60
Bv Macho Man  5 - $14.60 $10.20
Good and Tough  6 - - $3.00
Mr Rushmore  7 - - -
Also rans: Return of Fishy, Can, Jess Knockedout
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Superfecta 4-5-6-7 $1,907.40 $1,131.00
Trifecta 4-5-6 $339.60 $1,792.00
Exacta 4-5 $102.80 $1,807.00
Quinella 4-5 $24.80 $189.00
Fractions and final time: :13.302
Winning Owner: Hipolito Michel-Valverde
Winning Breeder: Richard or Genevieve Herrman

300Y, Dirt, $10,000 Starter Allowance
Open | 3 Year Olds And Up
Purse: $10,700

Exacta / Quinella / Trifecta (.50 min.) / Superfecta (.10 min.) Second Half of Late Double

# PP Horse / Sire Trainer / Jockey ML
1 1

Dynamite Lips

Jess Lips

Kenny Laymon

Rolando Raudales

12/1

2 2

Marmalade Candy

Cartels Candy Man

Shane Seaton

Nakia Ramirez

4/1

3 3

Queen of the Kartel

Carters Cartel

Tammy Kay Johnson

Jose Vega

7/2

4 4

De Alli Cap

Capo de Capi

Lucio Espiritu

Gonzalo R. Valles Jr.

15/1

5 5

Bang Bang Your Gone

Capo de Capi

Maria Elisa A. Barraza-Rodriguez

Gonzalo Gutierrez

12/1

6 6

Jesstell Cartel

Teller Cartel

Valarie Torres

Travis Cunningham

20/1

7 7

Lota Cac

Lota Pyc

Eddie Lee Willis

Agustin Silva

3/1

8 8

Jesse Joe

Coronas Prospect

Robert L. Esqueda

Justine Klaiber

8/1

9 9

Justonemore Martini

Cold Granite Stone

Anthony Nichols

Bryan Ernst

15/1

10 10

Sweet Furrena

Furrtreeous

Ramon Mendoza

Mario Delgado

5/1

Runner Win Place Show
Lota Cac  7 $5.60 $2.80 $2.80
Marmalade Candy  2 - $5.20 $3.20
Jesse Joe  8 - - $4.20
Dynamite Lips  1 - - -
Also rans: Bang Bang Your Gone, Queen of the Kartel, De Alli Cap, Jesstell Cartel, Justonemore Martini, Sweet Furrena
Pool Finish $2 Payout Total Pool
Superfecta 7-2-8-1 $1,187.40 $1,644.00
Trifecta 7-2-8 $171.00 $2,509.00
Pick 3 5-4-7 $242.40 $243.00
Pick 4 1/5-5-4-7 $146.20 $317.00
Daily Double 4-7 $38.00 $193.00
Exacta 7-2 $30.20 $3,210.00
Quinella 2-7 $13.60 $305.00
Fractions and final time: :15.372
Winning Owner: Whiting Ranch
Winning Breeder: Steve A Holt

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